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    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2008
     
    Thank you for visiting the Suboxone Help Spot. This Help Spot was designed as a place where people can come to learn about and discuss Suboxone. It is mean to be used as a tool for those who are contemplating whether or not to begin Suboxone treatment, those who are currently in the Suboxone treatment process, those who are further along in the Suboxone Maintenance phase of treatment, and for those who are currently weening off/have already weened off of Suboxone.

    It is our belief at the Suboxone Help Spot that medication alone isn't going to lead you to success in addiction recovery. We feel that Suboxone should be used in conjunction with a strong recovery program. Being able to share and identify with others is an integral part to any recovery program and Suboxone Help Spot would like to provide you with a place to get that done.
  1.  
    Hey Erin - Is there any way to make it easier to format comments? I noticed that I have to put in the html for line breaks and paragraphs or my comment gets smooshed all up into one big long uber-paragraph. No Fun!
    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
     
    We think alike. That is something that will be done in the next day or so. Thanks for the feedback.
  2.  
    We should get our heads together about how to promote the site - that is, if you want help :)
    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
     
    Shit ya...I'm looking for all the help I can get. That's really nice of you.
    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008 edited
     
    testing comments here.
    This should be a better editor.
    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008 edited
     
    here's 1 paragraph

    here's another paragraph

    plenty of spacing in between?
    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008 edited
     
    damn. not yet.

    I'm still trying.
    • CommentAuthorTed
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
     
    I'm gonna make another vid and talk up the site! We'll get some people here just wait!
  3.  
    Oooh, I like the new editor better already!
    Earlier I typed out this long post and then had to edit it like 5 times to fix the formatting.
    Now I'm just typing stuff to try it out.
    Thanks for fixing this!
    Can I put the film on my blog Ted?
    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008 edited
     
    Hey Ted
    Feel Free to post any of your video blogs on here as well.
    • CommentAuthorTed
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008 edited
     
    Yeah guys feel free to do whatever you'd like, I'm all for it! I made a new vlog today and hope it brings some people in. Really super job on this site Erin! I'm so impressed at your skills. Bottlecappie, its great to get to know you and the experience that you've had with suboxone. I would look forward to seeing your blog as well. It seems you really have some extensive knowledge about treatment.
    Thankful People: admin
    • CommentAuthorsusie-s
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2008
     
    Hi! Erin, Bottlecappi, anyone there? I need someone to email me back because I think I downloaded somthing I wasnt suppose to can anyone try? My name is susie-s thanks.
  4.  
    What did you download?
    • CommentAuthorsusie-s
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2008 edited
     
    Sorry, Bottlecappie, everything is up and running,I thoght I messed this site up and kinda panicked! But as always thanks for getting back to me.
    • CommentAuthorlorilor
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2008
     
    i want to know if anyone can give me advise on how to get suboxone it seems the only place here is the methodone clinic or if you are wealthy
    • CommentAuthorthebrat
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2008
     
    Hi! I do not know where you are located? If there are methadone clinics around, then I assume you are in a large area. I am definatly NOT wealthy and I thought the same thing. I called and got an appointment. I will have to drive about 2 and 1/2 hours to get to the only Dr. in this state that prescribes, and had to spend two weeks wages for the appt. and meds. The way i finally had to look at it was this: How much money was i spending for my drug of choice on the street? Lots more I am sure. My appt. will cost $220.00. The sub will cost between $150.00-300.00 per month to start. I will sacrafice some other things. My rent will be late. I will have to contact the utility companies and set up payment arrangements. I live payday to payday. I will make it through somehow. Good luck to you.
    • CommentAuthorthebrat
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2008
     
    Obviously I don't use the computer much. The above entry was not supposed to go there. I didn't mean to put it there either. I am sorry. I can't even find what the heck I was looking at yesterday when i responded. It was someone talking about finding a Dr. for sub and that they could not afford it.
    • CommentAuthorMikeL
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2008
     
    Is this website still active?? I'm new, and just kind of checking things out. I haven't seen any entries in a couple weeks. Maybe this is the normal flow. Just curious.
    • CommentAuthorErin
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2008
     
    There are a few people still hanging around. For a while the pace really picked up but then I had a server crash and the site was down for a few days. It never picked up with the same momentum after that. But I'm hoping to get back to that point. Thanks for checking it out.
    • CommentAuthorkaseyjr
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    I am in the induction phase. ALthough it is uncomfortable, it sure as heck beats the WD from Lortab which is completely disabling for me. This may save my career and family life but wow, that sounds dramatic :)
    • CommentAuthorfamilyof5
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
     
    I am SO EXCITED to have found this place...you have no idea how excited and happy i am...and i think i may be able to get some more peeps in here...possibly. This is just what i need...
    THANK U ALL!
  5.  
    Hello family of 5. My name is Mike,(Username=holliday0351)and I too am very excited as I just joined this site yesterday. This is actually my first post ever on any type of forum. I was starting to worry that this site isnt active, but it feels good to see somebody else new. Im sure you have already come to find this site very useful. I know it made me feel great to read all these stories, and realize that there are other people out there with the same problems of life. Good to have you. There is obviously some really great people that use this place.
    -Mike
  6.  
    Hello everybody. I am a rookie when it comes to online forums, so I pasted what I wrote yesterday (when I joined) in the "my story" board. I think this is where new guys are suppose to introduce themselves-Sorry for not giving introduction.
    Anyway my introduction and/or story is below. Thanks again for sharing everyone.

    My name is Mike. I have been reading pretty much everything on you guys discussion boards, and I really appreciate everyone sharing their input. It has helped me tremendously, as I too have an addiction to opiates, then suboxone. I used some serious opiates before my sub days,(Up to 20-25 Lortabs/Day). I got on suboxone about 6-7 months ago, and have been torturing my mind & body going back and forth from Lortab to Suboxone. Well here recently I finally have had enough, as I have kept my addiction a secret. I did alot of research, and designed my own "fast-taper" schedule. I have since completed the schedule, and am 2 days into my Sub-Detox. It is pretty rough, but back to being thankful for this site and its members as support. I have also told my wife, and she is being supportive of my decision to end this dream turned nightmare called opiate addiction. I know my story is getting pretty "wordy", but I wanted to give you guys my story in hopes that you will accept me as one of your comrades in this battle we are all in called addiction. Thanks again, as I am glad this site is available. I am anxioux to be able to "chat" with anyone that would like to.

    -Mike
    • CommentAuthorimclean
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2008
     
    Hi, my name is Jenny and I am SO happy to have found this site. I have an addiction to opiods and took massive amounts of vicodin, norco, percocet, and then oxycontin for the last year and a half. I am two weeks sober today! I started suboxone 2 weeks ago and my life has changed so much already. I have absolutely no craving nor desire to take pills of any kind. I feel that I have been given another chance to live my life. I am a housewife, with a killer husband and two amazing children (2 and 4). They deserve all of me, not the part that was available while taking pills. I am also starting NA tonite and in a couple weeks I am joining an outpatient rehab program that is 4 days/week for 6-8 weeks. I will do WHATEVER I need to in order to keep my addiction under control and to keep myself clean and sober for the rest of my life. Again, I am THRILLED to have found this site and have added it to my favorites and will check it numerous times daily. Thank you so much.
    --Jenny
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    Congratulations Jenny!
    As you can tell, there is not a whole lot of people posting here these days, dont knoe why bc it is an awesome site. I am on my eighth day off of suboxone(Did a 4 week taper 4mg-.125mg). I really screwed up today and took 3 lortabs that i got from my dealer. I had to buy 60 pills (240.00) and the guilt ate me alive. I was so mad I threw out the other 57 pills along with a few xanax I had. Im am ashamed but dammit Im back on the wagon for some more bumpy trails. I have been reading a whole lot on suboxone, as well as being on it off and on (rotating with lortabs) for about 6 months. You have done the first and most important thing.....Stopping the abuse of pills. Now not everyone would agree with me, but everything ive read suggest that suboxone is a great short term detox tool, but I will cautiously warn you that for "long-term maintenance" will only make it harder to quit when your time comes for that. But obviously, you have to be ready mentally to make the jump off of Sub. I know Im ready, and my dumb ass still relapsed today(and today only-GUILT!)It is definitely a pleasure to meet you Jenny and if you want another very informative place, check out: www.opiatedetoxrecovery.com and look at the suboxone topics. Again, kudos to you for taking the first step toward getting your life back.
    -Mike
  8.  
    Hi Jenny - Congrats on your decision to get off the pills. I'm glad to hear that the Sub is working so well for you.

    I've been on Suboxone for 11 months (tomorrow, actually!) and it's been great. I started at 16mgs a day and I'm down to 1mg. I should be done with my taper by December. Some people think the fast taper is the best way to go, but for me, a year of maintanence with a slow taper off seemed like the best thing to do. And this past year has really given me a chance to turn my life around - I'm back in college, so much healthier, working and life is looking great.

    You still have to work hard to fix all the addictive behavior and bad habits, and equally hard to make good new habits and form a strong support system though. Sub is a great tool, but it's not a cure.

    If you have any questions, let me know. Best of luck!

    I don't go to meetings or anything, but I keep a blog about my recovery and I'm also a blogger at The Second Road, a recovery website/community. I also go to the gym, do yoga, meditate and go to therapy. That's basically my treatment plan in a nutshell. I think it's great that you're going to do outpatient treatment - that will probably help you a lot.
    • CommentAuthorgitterbug
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008 edited
     
    Hello All,
    I am new here, and wanted to say hello. I have been on Sub, going on 2 years in Novemeber.........
    I wondered if anyone else there might be on this stuff, for such a long time?? I am on a low dose( 4mgs a day, compared to the 32 mgs a day, my Doctor started me on. A couple years ago, I do not think the doctors knew what they were supposed to be prescribing to start. I have tapered down, and for the last 2 months, I have been on a stand still. I went with out it for a week once, and thought it was the worst withdrawl I have ever experienced...That means a lot coming from someone who has kicked heroin,methadone and of course-most recently- a horroible hydro addiction.
    I was clean for 3 years, and had a surgery, blah blah blah, long story short- became addicted to hydros- On my last leg, I found a suboxone doc, and have been pretty steady/stable since.
    Lately, I have had extreme panic attacks-It is like nothing I have ever felt before. In all my years of abuse, I have never had so much anxiety-Has anyone else experienced this? It is usally 1/2 way between doses, I beging to feel panicked.
    Any advice would be greatly appreciated-I am calling my doc-1st thing Monday.
    J
    • CommentAuthordetoxyfried
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2008 edited
     
    I have been on 3 years at about 4mgs. I see my doc next week and will ask to be bumped up a mg or two. I was doing a boat load of crap Rx (not bragging just fact) so I figure it will take years to get my brain chemistry right about two years for every year of abuse. I am having WD's and bad cravings as well. I have unlimited access to Rx meds, I teach at a medical school. I am hanging on by finger tips. It's so easy to go to the pharm no one questions me and there is such limited accountability. If I need morphine to show students time from IV administration to full narcotization I check out a 20cc bottle take it to class and bring back 10cc's no questions asked. I so want to avoid those shit days again. I figure I will be a Suboxone lifer but that is better than the alternative.
    To your point yes I seem to be having increased WD symptoms as of late, including anxiety. No it can't be from the naloxone. I called Reckitt and was told it is impossible to develop a tolerance but it is possible to have your metabolism speed up causing you to need more. I hope that helped but I doubt it. Like any new drug no one understaands it not the doctor or the mfg.
    • CommentAuthortaylor777w
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008
     
    Hi I am new too. Just called and have an appointment for the sub induction soon. Hey has anyone read SUBOXONE by James Schaller? EXCELLENT book. got it off amazon a couple of weeks ago...lots of good info. I am kind of scared has anyone got a story for me about how there starting suboxone went...I am a high dose kind of girl and I am very afraid of the cold turkey...let me know off to bed for the night....
    • CommentAuthorghost
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2009
     
    hi I just joined here. I'm glad I found this site. I've been on subx maintenance for few months now and go to NA meetings everyday. It has saved my life. I can relate to everyone here, I've been reading various threads. I'm currently weened down to 8mg daily. The only problem I have is paying the doc who doesnt accept (or won't accept) my insurance. 50 bux a week which is pretty much my whole welfare check. get the subx free tho from the company. on a waiting list for a program that accepts medicare so keeping my fingers crossed I'll be in soon. it makes me feel like an active addict when i obsess about the money to get my pills...hate it. I appreciate this site and will be back. anyway, cheers! ghost
    • CommentAuthorfembot
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2009
     
    Hi Everyone... this is my first time here, but I am seeking some guidance and support. I've been addicted to percocet for 3 years now, and I have decided once and for all to get off of them. Mentally, I am totally ready, but I am dreading the withdrawals. I've tried to get off of them before, but the sickness was killing me. I talked to my psychiatrist about Suboxone, and he wrote me a script, only to find that he's not legally allowed to prescribe it. The pharmacy won't fill it, and I have about a day's worth of percocet left. The doc re-wrote the script for me for "back pain" instead of "withdrawals from opiates" and I'm going to try and get it filled tomorrow. I am scared and nervous that I won't be able to get it filled, and that I'll have to go cold turkey. Any advice would be so helpful!
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    As far as I know, any doctor can prescribe Suboxone for pain. They only need the waiver to presribe it for treating opiate addiction. My only advice would be DON'T take the new scrip back to the same pharmacy. Otherwise you should be fine. It's totally legal for doctor's to prescribe sub for pain control.

    Once you get your scrip filled, follow the directions. You have to wait until you're in mild to moderate withdrawals before you take your first dose of Suboxone. You should wait about 12 hours or so from your last dose of percocet, and make sure you're feeling some physical signs of w/d. Like big pupils, goosebumps, runny nose, restless legs...you know.

    Then, take a small amount of Suboxone, like 2-4 mgs to start. Put it under your tongue and wait for 20 minutes. You can swallow the pill residue or spit it out (there's a thread on that around here). Don't drink anything for another 20-30 minutes as the tissues in your mouth are still absorbing medication. You should feel better pretty quickly. I remember my first dose was like this HUGE feeling of relief, and then I felt normal, only better.

    Some docs will write a high dose, like 16mgs or 24mgs a day. Since Sub is pretty strong and also quite expensive, I'd recommend trying to get by on less. I started on 16mgs, and to be totally honest when I dropped down to 4mgs I didn't feel any difference. So just take as much as you need to stop your withdrawals AND suppress cravings. Everyone's different, so find your happy dose. You and your doctor should decide how long you will stay on Sub. Some people do a quick detox-type taper, and others (me!) stay on it for a while so we can build a stable foundation for recovery. Either way, there will be some withdrawals from Suboxone when you stop taking it, so tapering slowly is the key.

    Then get to work on some kind of recovery program. I don't do a 12 step group, but I go to counseling, write about recovery, and do yoga and some other stuff. You have to change yourself on the inside, otherwise you'll be right back where you started when you taper off the Suboxone.

    Good luck, and if you want to read more of my story (I've been on Sub for over a year now) you can check out my blog:

    http://www.bottlecappie.wordpress.com

    And The Second Road has a bunch of recovery blogs that are good too:

    http://www.thesecondroad.org/tsr (It's kinda like myspace for people in recovery)

    Also check out Dr. Junig's blog, The Suboxone Talk Zone for good info on Sub

    http://www.suboxontalkzone.com
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    Hello everyone. This is my first day here and I'm so happy I found this site! I've been on suboxone for 5 months & 2 days now and I've been needing an outside support group, especially now that I am coming down on the meds. The only thing that I've been able to find has been NA. While NA is GREAT, I found that it was completely POINTLESS for me because I was unable to share anything about my personal road to recovery, since they frown on ANY kind of medically assisted treatment. So here I am, so very excited to find something focused completely on what I am going through. I also have a few other people that I would like to introduce to this site as well. They are going through the same thing as myself and I'm sure they will be as THRILLED as I am!
    • CommentAuthorkhanlon
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2009
     
    Hello and thanks in advance for any consideratons....I have an appt. Monday for suboxone, I have supprt group in place, mostly looking for help with withdrawals....
    So, addiction is 6 to 8 large vicodens per day, What can i expect ????
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    If your addiction is really 6-8 large vicodin (10mgs, I'm assuming?) per day - I would highly recommend that you not go on Suboxone.

    I'm in the process of tapering off Sub right now, and the withdrawals are at least as bad as quitting hydrocodone, if not worse. They are at the very least longer lasting than hydro w/d's.

    Suboxone is a strong drug. 2mgs is roughly equivalent to 50mgs of Methadone. This seems like overkill for a 60-80mg/day hydro habit.

    Here's the thing - Sub will let you put off going thru withdrawals for a while. It is good if you really need the stability that it can provide to keep you from relapse. It can give you time to get your life together and form new habits so that you can stay off opiates.

    It doesn't cure addiction or heal your brain. It is not painless to quit Suboxone. It seems to me that if you are able to contain your drug use to 6-8 vicodin a day, you can probably quit without Suboxone. You can get "comfort meds" for your withdrawal period, and make sure you have support. But think hard about what you're getting into with Suboxone.
    Thankful People: Tddeesut
    • CommentAuthornatsie
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2009
     
    HI I am twenty nine, female and have dealt with borderline personality disorder and severe depression for about twelve years. Then I think because of all the emotional crap I got severe chronic pain and for the last year I started taking more and more hydrochodone and drinking more. So being a single mom of the best little one year old ever I decided to get treatment. I am on Effexor 300 mg and klonopin and Suboxone 12 mg. It makes me really tired and in the last five days I have isolated myself and throw up in the morning and do not feel myself at all.. I felt better when i was abusing. i feel absolutely terrified like i'm in a nightmare and frantically trying to get out. if any of you have any advice please let me know as I've cut my wrists even praying for God to let me die. People say "you have everything" little do they know. Please, please help. I'm new here but you can e mail me at natsie79@gmail.com. Any help would be so appreciated.
    • CommentAuthortrying
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    maybe i am not using this site right do any of you ever write its like everything is pretty much 2008
    • CommentAuthortrying
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    lets face it it is cheaper to by dope am i right
    • CommentAuthortrying
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    pleeeeeze i am waiting on a reply am i just the only one here
    • CommentAuthorjb21
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2009
     
    its not cheaper to buy dope trying...thats rediculous...even if its cheaper financially...its not cheaper on your body, mind, and soul...you shouldn't bring that negativity here...imagine people that are on the fence read your comment...some r weak enough thats all it would take...are you TRYING to recover or are u TRYING to be a jerk...
    • CommentAuthorjb21
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2009
     
    plus you can by suboxone prob from that same man selling you dope for a lot cheaper than the dope...seriously its the best thing you can possibly do for yourself...UP WITH HOPE, DOWN WITH DOPE... Sorry for for getting so pissy in my last message... Just so people understand, there are plenty of discussions going on everyday on this site...you can bookmark the ones your int in so you can find them easily the next day...if you click on discussions or categories you can view the various discussions that are going on...Hope that clears some stuff up
    • CommentAuthorabby
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2009
     
    i went into detox 7 days ago for addiction to oxycontin. i was takin about 360mg oxy a day. they started me on 8mg of suboxone twice daily. it helped tremendously! i went from thinking i was going to die to feeling no wd symptoms. i am back at home now and it works wonders. one problem though... the meds are $424 a month! i can't afford it. i'm only able to buy 2 or 3 days worth at a time. does anyone know of any programs to help pay for the medicine? also, was wondering if it is ok to take an ambien for sleep?
    • CommentAuthordebrasary
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2009
     
    I read that the generic of Suboxone is out. 2.50/pill. May want to check it out
    • CommentAuthorTed
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    If thats true... Its about time that the huge profits realized by Reckitt has finally ended for a mistake stumbled on by their pharmacology team. Maybe the docs will follow suit and start accepting medicare instead of lining their pockets with cash !
    • CommentAuthorsubgirl
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Hello I am new to this whole thing. I have been on suboxone for about a year, I started taking 24mg a day and I am now down to 4mg a day. But I feel stuck at this point. I don't know what to do at this point, go to 2mg?, stop taking it on this dosage?, take 4mg every other day?. If anybody can give me some advice that would be great.
    • CommentAuthorsubzero
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2010
     
    hi subhumans, to all out there who got lost in the world of chemicals,now comes a time when we can rise above our addictions. unite and become a force to be reckoned with.no longer do we have the need to move from shadow to shadow.come into the light and conquer the prejudice that has kept us living on the fringes of society.rise up and take your rightful place in society.band together and be heard.no more do we have remain quiet.open your minds and open your mouths.why in a world of pills and powders,must we seek help from unscrupulous doctors and insidious pharmacists.when our leaders tell us illegal drugs support our enemies,then put the cures out of our reach. to all health professionals out there band together and save our children and ourselves. lets start a conversion to inform and educate the clients of this website....subzero....
    • CommentAuthorsubzero
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2010
     
    i just wana see if anyone feels like i do?
    • CommentAuthorevelyn54
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2010
     
    Hello, my name is June. I have been on sub for 2 years now and the cost is killing me. I am just working part-time. It helps with pain that I have from fibromyalgia and now I am not taking oxycontin, etc. I need help with the cost! $400/ month is catistrophic for me. I read about a program -- something about 2 doc. My dr said he would help me with this. Can anyone tell me what I need to do? It helps, but my savings is gone. God bless all of you who have dealt with similar issues. It works so they have us by the nose, I think. I read that it might become generic soon? Any truth to that? Thanks so much from all of you out there. Now, I have to work on finding a job. J.S.
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    I have been on the Suboxone program for a month now. I am going to AA & NA meetings along with an outpatient program. I have been out of a 28 day Inpatient for one week now. I am living in a clean and sober house with 10 other recovering addicts. So far the combination of Suboxone, meetings, treatment and my higher power have helped me to stay in recovery. My main concern is that the treatment facility that prescribes my Suboxone wants me to start weaning off of Suboxone starting next week. I am to wean a quarter of a 8mg Suboxone once a week thereafter. I know myself all to well. It is too soon for me to wean. I have already been having a hard time with the prescribed amount later on in the day. I am doing what I am told. If I do things my way, the results are catastrophic, always! So I am finding out what to be told what to do in this situation. I need help. I am on Medicaid. I am looking for a doctor who will take Medicaid and prescribe me Suboxone for a longer period of time. I strongly believe this is the best route for me. I have tried Methadone in the past. I was on 130mg of Methadone for 2 years. It did help me. However a gained allot of weight (100lbs) of course I was really sucked up from my addiction prior to taking Methadone. I am 6' tall and I weighed 135lb's. Still I gained more weight than I should have. the reasons being was that Methadone made me feel sluggish, I didn't want to do anything more than I had too. I also craved allot of sugar and fatty foods while on Methadone. Granted these are small prices to pay considering what I was doing to myself while using. When I was laid off from my job and my unemployment ran out I was forced to stop the Methadone program. They weaned me down off of Methadone from 130mg in one week! The withdrawals were so bad I ended up in the hospital. Methadone withdrawals were way worse than the drug of my choice. I will not ever do the Methadone program again! I hope that I can continue to use Suboxone in my recovery. All else fails in comparison.
    If you have any suggestions, please feel free to let me know. Thank you all for your support.

    Sincerely John.